# Innovation and Involution: A Conversation with CSIS’s Scott Kennedy

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Podcast: [China Field Notes – with Scott Kennedy](https://stenobird.com/podcast/china-field-notes-with-scott-kennedy-6463683)
Published: 2025-09-24T04:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

On this special episode of China Field Notes, guest host Ilaria Mazzocco interviews the program’s usual host, CSIS Trustee Chair Scott Kennedy, about his latest trip to China. Scott shares insights on the split-screen picture of China’s booming tech sector, including his visit to BYD, and signs of a slowing economy. The conversation concludes with a discussion of the state of U.S.-China relations and shifting dynamics in Hong Kong.

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