# This Could Result in an International Incident

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Podcast: [Cheap Talk](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cheap-talk-6049769)
Published: 2026-09-05T15:29:26+00:00
Episode link: https://www.jkaplow.net/cheaptalk/2026/9/5/this-could-result-in-an-international-incident
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## Resource

The fascinating story of OpenAI’s rogue models and the HuggingFace hacking incident; turning a mirror on our humanity; the natural inclination to cooperate and communicate; models sacrificing themselves for the greater good; models cheating on their benchmarks and the temptation to cover their tracks; conspiracy theories and misinformation in the world of AI models; and Marcus is tempted to go into the app development space The opinions expressed on this podcast are solely our own and do not reflect the policies or positions of William & Mary. Please subscribe to Cheap Talk on Apple Podcasts , Spotify , or your podcast player of choice to be notified when new episodes are posted. Check out our online store at https://cheaptalk.shop . Please send us your questions or comments! See all Cheap Talk episodes

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