# It's Real and It's Dangerous

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Podcast: [Cheap Talk](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cheap-talk-6049769)
Published: 2026-04-18T01:12:14+00:00
Episode link: https://www.jkaplow.net/cheaptalk/2026/4/17/its-real-and-its-dangerous
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## Resource

Excitement in the world of digital diplomacy; face-to-face diplomacy to end the Iran war; blockading Iran as a plan B and its prospects for success; Anthropic’s Mythos and AI that is too dangerous to release; the offense-defense balance in cyberspace; building AI for the public good; more capable models are more dangerous, even if they are well aligned; and Marcus can’t be bothered The opinions expressed on this podcast are solely our own and do not reflect the policies or positions of William & Mary. Please subscribe to Cheap Talk on Apple Podcasts , Spotify , or your podcast player of choice to be notified when new episodes are posted. Check out our online store at https://cheaptalk.shop . Further Viewing/Reading: Marine Traffic website Anthropic. 2026. System Card: Claude Mythos Preview. See all Cheap Talk episodes

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