# Society Would Collapse in 6 DAYS: The Super Weapon That Could End the World - Annie Jacobsen

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Podcast: [Change Agents with Andy Stumpf](https://stenobird.com/podcast/change-agents-with-andy-stumpf-6206375)
Published: 2026-07-29T21:30:00+00:00
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Annie Jacobsen is a Pulitzer Prize finalist and New York Times bestselling author known for her research and writing on topics related to national security, defense, and intelligence. Her investigative work has focused on some of the most secretive areas of government and includes the titles Area 51: An Uncensored History of America's Top Secret Military Base, The Pentagon's Brain: An Uncensored History of DARPA, America's Top-Secret Military Research Agency, Operation Paperclip, and Nuclear War. Her latest, Biological War: A Scenario is out now. Video Chapters: (00:00) – Intro: Nations With Bioweapons Programs & Meet Annie Jacobsen (01:15) – Panic vs. Pressure: Writing About Doomsday & Trusting the Algorithm (04:58) – Covid's Airborne Denial: A Case Study in Institutional Fallibility (09:58) – Nuclear vs. Biological: Case Fatality Rates & Which Scares Her More (17:41) – Pentagon War Games: Outbreak to Anarchy in Six Days (26:06) – Global Threat Landscape & Anatomy of a Lab Accident at Vector (34:03) – Close Calls, AI-Enabled Bioweapons & Rebuilding Public Trust (44:00) – Gain-of-Function, "Devolution," Live Outbreaks & Closing Thoughts Sponsors: Firecracker Farm Use code IRONCLAD to get 15% off your first order at https://firecracker.farm/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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