# Inside S-4: America’s Secret Government UFO Program (‘S4’ Filmmaker Luigi Vendittelli)

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Podcast: [Change Agents with Andy Stumpf](https://stenobird.com/podcast/change-agents-with-andy-stumpf-6206375)
Published: 2026-04-01T20:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Luigi Vendittelli is the director of the upcoming documentary "S4: The Bob Lazar Story", a figure he calls, "the original UFO whistleblower." Change Agents is an IRONCLAD Original Chapters: 01:15 - Meeting Bob Lazar 10:33 - Why UFO Interest Has Gone Mainstream 17:22 - Is S4” Real? 23:17 - The Best Evidence of UFOs 42:12 - Addressing Holes in Bob Lazar’s Story 47:18 - Why Is the Government Covering Up What They Know 54:50 - Is It Possible to Reverse Engineer UFOs? Sponsors: Firecracker Farm Use code IRONCLAD to get 15% off your first order at https://firecracker.farm/ GHOSTBED: Go to https://www.GhostBed.com/IRONCLAD and use code IRONCLAD for an extra 15% off sitewide. Norwood Sawmills: Learn more about Norwood Sawmills and how you can start milling your own lumber at https://norwoodsawmills.com/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=ironclad&utm_campaign=ironclad Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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