# Challenger Cities EP81: A Chair in the City and a Stool at the Rouge with Ken Greenberg

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Podcast: [Challenger Cities](https://stenobird.com/podcast/challenger-cities-6959558)
Published: 2026-05-15T17:20:20+00:00
Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/challengercitytoronto/2828657
Audio file: https://content.rss.com/episodes/278784/2828657/challengercitytoronto/2026_05_15_17_15_23_4dd42232-f443-408c-b252-4d0bc602e7b0.mp3
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Duration seconds: 4122

## Resource

If you liked our episode with Ilana Altman about The Bentway, then you'll like this one with Ken Greenberg, because he's part of that origin story. Ken is a legend in Toronto urbanism circles, as someone who did pioneering work in his early career in the city and then took it to the likes of St. Paul and Boston in the US. We set up this episode to discuss work he's doing around the newly free'd up airport lands in Pickering, ON and his vision to turn this into a new part of the Rouge National Urban Park. It's a conversation that we hope can breathe life and optimism into the Toronto urban discourse, as many of the components of what Challenger Cities need is right there. It just needs unleashing.

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