# Episode 7: How to avoid just teaching yourself

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Podcast: [Chalk Dust](https://stenobird.com/podcast/chalk-dust-7274496)
Published: 2025-09-21T19:58:17+00:00
Episode link: https://chalkdust.media/p/episode-7-how-to-avoid-just-teaching
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Summary In this episode of Chalk Dust , Dr Nathaniel Swain and Rebecca Birch are joined by John Hollingsworth, co-founder of DataWorks Educational Research and co-author of Explicit Direct Instruction: The Power of the Well-Crafted, Well-Taught Lesson . Known widely as the “Purple Book,” his work has shaped how teachers worldwide think about whole-class explicit teaching. Together, the team analyse classroom footage from maths, English, and science lessons, reflecting on how expert teachers use strategies such as “I’ll come back to you,” gestures, non-volunteer questioning, and sentence frames. John unpacks what effective checking for understanding looks like, why aiming for “80% whole-class success then corrective feedback” leads to 100% mastery, and how explicit instruction is far from “chalk and talk.” Themes include the role of choral response in normalising mistakes, how gestures and props strengthen memory, why teachers must “work the page” rather than read slides verbatim, and the motivational power of explaining lesson importance. John shares coaching insights from working in over 25,000 classrooms, emphasising structured processing time, randomisation, and pre-planned sentence stems. Mentioned resources and explainers Explicit Direct Instruction (EDI), the Purple Book Hollingsworth and Ybarra’s foundational text on well-crafted lessons and whole-class explicit teaching. Gestures and kinesthetic strategies Not to be confused with learning styles or VAK! Gestures are most powerful when they clearly align with meaning, such as iconic or representational movements rather than random hand-waving. Learning is supported both when students produce gestures themselves and when they observe them from teachers or peers. The benefits are particularly strong with complex o…

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