# We Built Agents, Nobody Built HR | Tyler Akidau, Redpanda

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Podcast: [Chain of Thought | AI Agents, Infrastructure & Engineering](https://stenobird.com/podcast/chain-of-thought-ai-agents)
Published: 2026-05-27T11:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 3050

## Resource

Tyler Akidau, CTO of Redpanda and author of the O'Reilly Streaming Systems book, makes the case that enterprises are shipping AI agents into production without the governance layer they need. He lays out the four pillars of agent HR (identity, authorization, observability, accountability) and why inline enforcement via CLAUDE.md fails the moment the stakes get real.

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