# 1187: Pattern Recognition: How CFOs See Around Corners | Alex Chun, CFO, NEOGOV Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/cfo-thought-leader-495494/1187-pattern-recognition-how-cfos-see-around-corners-alex-chun-cfo-neogov Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/cfo-thought-leader-495494/1187-pattern-recognition-how-cfos-see-around-corners-alex-chun-cfo-neogov.md Podcast: [CFO THOUGHT LEADER](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cfo-thought-leader-495494) Published: 2026-05-17T18:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://cfo-thought-leader.captivate.fm/episode/1187-pattern-recognition-how-cfos-see-around-corners-alex-chun-cfo-neogov Audio file: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/2ebb5878-60b9-484b-a094-e68b58e37722.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/cfo-thought-leader-495494/episodes/1187-pattern-recognition-how-cfos-see-around-corners-alex-chun-cfo-neogov Duration seconds: 2601 ## Resource Alex Chun already knew the management team at NEOGOV long before he became its CFO. As an investor at Warburg Pincus, he spent more than four years “in the trenches” with NEOGOV’s leadership team, flying to Los Angeles to work through operational challenges alongside them, Chun tells us. His path to finance leadership did not begin in accounting or FP&A. Instead, Chun spent nearly a decade evaluating companies at Morgan Stanley, General Atlantic, and Warburg Pincus, developing what he calls “pattern recognition” by analyzing “dozens, if not hundreds” of businesses, Chun tells us. That investor mindset now shapes how he leads finance. After joining NEOGOV in 2021, Chun focused on transforming finance into the company’s “centralized insights engine,” bringing quantitative discipline beyond the finance department and into sales, customer operations, and product decision-making, Chun tells us. He contrasts the polished presentations of boardrooms with the reality of operations, where even changing the pricing of a product can require “90 steps” across multiple teams, Chun tells us. Today, Chun is equally focused on AI’s impact across the business. At NEOGOV, teams are using AI to analyze customer conversations, automate workflows, and rethink scalability itself, Chun tells us. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/cfo-thought-leader-495494/episodes/1187-pattern-recognition-how-cfos-see-around-corners-alex-chun-cfo-neogov/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/cfo-thought-leader-495494/1187-pattern-recognition-how-cfos-see-around-corners-alex-chun-cfo-neogov.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.