# Ink Founder Andrew Koller on Memes, tokenized RWAs, and Ethereum's approach to scaling

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Podcast: [CFB Talks Digital Assets](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cfb-talks-digital-assets-6596525)
Published: 2025-02-07T19:07:51+00:00
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## Resource

One of Ethereum’s newest and most exciting Layer-2s is of course Ink, unleashed by Kraken on the Optimism Superchain in December - so we’re thrilled to welcome Andrew Koller, Ink’s founder, to the CFB Talks Digital Assets podcast. With deep on-chain expertise, Andrew dives into some of the most critical topics shaping the future of Ethereum, institutional participation, and how the network scales to a billion users. Top points include: Are meme coins the ultimate Trojan horse for mass adoption, or is their life cycle limited? Can Ethereum learn from Solana’s UX, and how can users expect the on-chain experience to be more seamless following the Pectra upgrade? How Kraken’s expertise in stablecoins is being put to work to improve on-chain liquidity using USDT0 Are partnerships with players like Securitize paving the way for a wider array of tokenized assets, and what can Ink do to make institutions comfortable bringing assets on chain? The rationale behind building on the OP stack and the road towards full decentralization All in all, this is a must-listen for anyone interested in Ethereum’s future.

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