# EP 14: AI Adoption, Founder Pressure, and Scaling SaaS Teams with Ben Grozier (ClassCover)

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Published: 2026-05-07T03:21:37+00:00
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## Resource

In this highly relevant and forward-looking episode, Saurabh Jain sits down with Ben Grozier , Co-Founder and CEO of ClassCover, to explore one of the most pressing challenges in modern SaaS businesses: how to adopt AI effectively without overwhelming teams or compromising quality. Ben shares how ClassCover has grown into a leading education technology platform, supporting over 5,000 schools and hundreds of thousands of teachers across Australia and New Zealand. He explains how the business is evolving beyond its core product into a broader ecosystem—while navigating the complexity of government contracts, security requirements, and scaling pressures. The conversation centers on a key leadership tension: balancing the excitement and urgency of AI-driven innovation with the realities of team capacity, risk management, and existing operational demands. Ben opens up about “shiny object syndrome,” founder-driven pressure, and the challenge of encouraging engineers to adopt new tools without disrupting delivery. Together, they unpack how leaders can introduce AI into workflows, manage cultural resistance, and create structured environments for learning—without forcing change or damaging morale. The discussion also explores SaaS defensibility, emerging competition enabled by AI, and why speed, adaptability, and leadership mindset now matter more than ever. This episode is essential listening for SaaS founders, CEOs, and technology leaders navigating AI adoption, team performance, and scaling in a rapidly changing landscape. What You’ll Learn in This Episode How ClassCover scaled to thousands of schools and a large teacher network The real challenge of AI adoption inside engineering teams Why founder pressure can both accelerate and disrupt progress How to balance innovation…

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