# Invisible Value

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Podcast: [CEO Daily Brief with Dr. Jessica Kriegel](https://stenobird.com/podcast/ceo-daily-brief-with-dr-jessica-kriegel-6756640)
Published: 2026-08-18T09:20:00+00:00
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## Resource

In today's episode: A phrase like "soft skills" hides something leaders desperately need. Why taking lunch with someone who seemingly can't ‘do anything for you’ might be one of the smartest business moves you’ll make all year. What boardroom crisis decision looks brilliant on the surface while something invisible is really driving the outcome. CEO Daily Brief with Dr. Jessica Kriegel is a 5-minute daily podcast where business pragmatism meets inner wisdom. John Frehse, Global Head of Labor Strategies at Ankura, joins Jessica to debate what invisible value really means, from long-term relationship building to the hidden factors behind fast decisions. Connect with Dr. Jessica Kriegel on LinkedIn Connect with John Frehse on LinkedIn Other Ways to Connect: Jessica Kriegel Website Jessica Kriegel Instagram Jessica Kriegel Newsletter Culture Partners Website Culture Partners LinkedIn

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