# If AI Does the Junior Work, How Does Anyone Become Senior?

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Podcast: [CEO Daily Brief with Dr. Jessica Kriegel](https://stenobird.com/podcast/ceo-daily-brief-with-dr-jessica-kriegel-6756640)
Published: 2026-09-14T09:20:00+00:00
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## Resource

In today's episode: The AI and talent pipeline panic sweeping the workplace world might be asking the wrong question entirely. A 23 year-old associate reveals the surprising, deeply human way she actually landed her job in a tough market. Learning to lead turns out to be a lifelong process that never really stops, no matter how senior someone becomes. CEO Daily Brief with Dr. Jessica Kriegel is a 5-minute daily podcast where business pragmatism meets inner wisdom. John Frehse, Global Head of Labor Strategies at Ankura, joins Jessica to debate whether AI eliminating entry-level work threatens the future talent pipeline, or whether the real story is a shrinking workforce overall. Connect with Dr. Jessica Kriegel on LinkedIn Connect with John Frehse on LinkedIn Other Ways to Connect: Jessica Kriegel Website Jessica Kriegel Instagram Jessica Kriegel Newsletter Culture Partners Website Culture Partners LinkedIn

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