# Slavery to AI or Freedom Through It? The Choice That Defines the Next Decade

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Podcast: [Careers and the Business of Law](https://stenobird.com/podcast/careers-and-the-business-of-law-6403793)
Published: 2026-05-14T16:00:00+00:00
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Carl Morrison is the legal operations ambassador to Las Vegas, a CLOC board member, and one of the people who built the legal operations function on the Las Vegas Strip. David Cowen sits down with Carl to trace the evolution of legal ops from his first CLOC at the Bellagio a decade ago to today's McCormick Place, and to unpack the central question of this moment: are we using AI as a tool, or are we becoming enslaved to it? Key Topics Covered: The CLOC origin story: Building the first legal ops function in Las Vegas gaming and hospitality The CLOC 101 Academy: Why the entry-level program now serves over 150 attendees Slavery vs. freedom: Carl's framing of the choice every legal team faces with AI Personal agency as the answer: Why the automation question is fundamentally about who you want to be The Claude conversation: Why model preference shifts month to month and why the relationship matters more than the tool Fearlessness as career strategy: Why curiosity matters more than credentials 🎧 Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen. Share this episode and take your career from now to next! 💡To learn more about the future of legal innovation, visit https://solid.legal/podcasts/ Never eat alone!

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