# Corporate Health Care Crimes: Wendell Potter on the Real Waste, Fraud & Abuse

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Podcast: [Care Talk with Laura Packard: American Health Care Explained](https://stenobird.com/podcast/care-talk-with-laura-packard-american-health-care-explained-6733935)
Published: 2026-08-11T10:00:39+00:00
Episode link: https://healthcarevoices.org/caretalk
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## Resource

Corporate consolidation didn't just raise your health insurance premiums — it built a system where big insurance companies, hospitals, and PBMs profit from denying you care. Health insurance whistleblower and former Cigna VP Wendell Potter of Center for Health & Democracy joins us to expose what politicians really mean when they say "waste, fraud, and abuse" — and why the biggest offenders aren't patients, they're the corporations running the show in this #CareTalk episode with show host, cancer survivor, and health care advocate Laura Packard from Health Care Voices . Get "Deadly Spin: An Insurance Company Insider Speaks Out on How Corporate PR Is Killing Health Care and Deceiving Americans" by Wendell Potter: https://amzn.to/4i2Cxg9 Plus Louise Norris from healthinsurance.org answers your American health insurance and health care questions on Medicare, the Affordable Care Act, Medicaid, private insurance and more. This episode has more about Affordable Care Act open enrollment timing, resources for fighting prior authorization denials of care, and non-MAGI income limits for Medicaid vs Medicare and Income-Related Monthly Adjustment Amount (IRMAA). New episodes of Care Talk every Tuesday, subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Text or call in your health insurance and health care questions in to (202) 838-6837 to get answers in future shows! Free or Low Cost Health Care Resources on our show page: https://healthcarevoices.org/caretalk

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