# Can We Build a Middle Class Without Factories? - ft. Dani Rodrik

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Podcast: [Capitalisn't](https://stenobird.com/podcast/capitalisn-t-910873)
Published: 2026-01-22T13:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Is the era of manufacturing-led growth officially over? In this episode, Bethany McLean and Luigi Zingales sit down with Dani Rodrik, Ford Foundation Professor of International Political Economy at Harvard and author of Shared Prosperity in a Fractured World. Rodrik argues that we have "no other choice" but to look toward the service sector to anchor our future economy.

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