# How Canada Wins at Defence

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Podcast: [CANADALAND](https://stenobird.com/podcast/canadaland-317958)
Published: 2026-08-24T10:45:00+00:00
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As recent events in Ukraine, Russia, and Iran have clearly demonstrated, the nature of modern warfare is changing fast (think: drones). Canada will get left behind if it doesn’t start innovating fast. And that could have not just a winning effect on its defence capabilities but also it’s an opportunity to stimulate other industries.  Host Stephen Marche explores the advent of drone warfare with Tim Mak, Kyiv-based publisher of The Counteroffensive; and Cameron Chell, a Canadian aerospace and defence tech entrepreneur at Dragonfly, shares how the nascent Canadian drone industry can drive technological innovation, not just in the defence sphere but also in a multitude of other uses that will bolster the country’s economy.  Follow the Gloves Off podcast here: https://www.gloves-off.ca/season-2   Host: Stephen Marche Credits: Tristan Capacchione (Senior Production Supervisor), Bruce Thorson (Senior Producer), Jesse Brown (Editor and Publisher) Special thanks: Dory Smith (Director of Advertising and Partnerships) Further Reading: Gloves Off Research , see EP. 205 for details about today’s episode Canadian Shield Institute Next month on Off The Record we are back to our call-in show format. On Thursday August 27, 2026 we will be taking your calls on a new question: What do you wish you had known when starting school or what’s a piece of advice you would give to someone starting school? Kindergarten, Middle school, High school, CEGEP, university, anything! The call-in period will be Thursday, August 27th, 4:30-6:30 PM ET. When the time comes, head over to https://callinstudio.com/show/canadaland . You can also dial in at 1-888-401-7056. Sponsors: Fizz : Visit https://fizz.ca and activate a first plan using the referral code CAN25 to get 40$ off and 10GB of free…

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