# The Congruent Life (with C.E. Jarnagin) | Ep. 72

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Podcast: [Cabernet and Pray](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cabernet-and-pray-6576447)
Published: 2026-05-06T12:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/podcasts/cabernet-and-pray/episodes/2149203358
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## Resource

What do you do when the very people who introduced you to Jesus can no longer recognize the Jesus your faith has led you to? C.E. Jarnagin is a priest, researcher, and author who's asking that exact question in his new book The Congruent Life , and he brings a rare combination of Anglican liturgy, pastoral honesty, and zero tolerance for religious veneer to the conversation. In this episode, Jeremy and Chad work through what it looks like to hold your full humanity inside a faith community, why Christian nationalism and the Jesus of the Gospels are not remotely the same, and how a small church of 160 people (including a dozen former pastors) might actually be doing something the megachurch model couldn't.  Watch the episode on video:  https://youtu.be/uTzs1Mo9F2c   ----------------- My new book, The Edge of the Inside, is now available. You can get a signed copy or in whatever form you prefer: https://www.edgeoftheinside.com/ Join the online community and get access to exclusive content and experiences: https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/online-community Trying to make sense of faith? Download my free Deconstruction Field Guide. It's a ten-page resource to help you navigate what's next so you don't have to do it alone.   https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/opt-in   Links: https://www.instagram.com/chadjarnagin https://www.threads.com/@chadjarnagin  

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