# Psychological Safety (with Anthony Parrott) | Ep. 69

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Podcast: [Cabernet and Pray](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cabernet-and-pray-6576447)
Published: 2026-03-25T12:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/podcasts/cabernet-and-pray/episodes/2149183137
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## Resource

What does it actually take for a church to be a safe place? Anthony Parrott, co-pastor of Table Church DC, has spent 17 years in ministry and a lifetime accumulating enough theology to know when it stops being honest. In this conversation, he and Jeremy trace a winding path through open and relational theology, trauma competency, why packaging spiritual formation into a program is its own kind of abuse, and what it looks like to pastor a church where the point is not to have it all figured out. Anthony is a guy who will tell you exactly what he thinks about Augustine, John Piper, and a white Malbec he found at Wegmans, and somehow it all fits together. Watch the episode on video:  https://youtu.be/4bxba43_Twk ----------------- My new book, The Edge of the Inside , releases March 31. You can get a signed copy or in whatever form you prefer: https://www.edgeoftheinside.com/ Join the online community and get access to exclusive content and experiences: https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/patron-sign-ups  Trying to make sense of faith? Download my free Deconstruction Field Guide. It's a ten-page resource to help you navigate what's next so you don't have to do it alone.   https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/opt-in  

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