# Downsizing Evangelicalism (with Michelle Van Loon) | Ep. 55 Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/cabernet-and-pray-6576447/downsizing-evangelicalism-with-michelle-van-loon-ep-55 Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/cabernet-and-pray-6576447/downsizing-evangelicalism-with-michelle-van-loon-ep-55.md Podcast: [Cabernet and Pray](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cabernet-and-pray-6576447) Published: 2025-09-10T12:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/podcasts/cabernet-and-pray/episodes/2149083880 Audio file: https://app.kajabi.com/podcasts/medias/2149083880.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/cabernet-and-pray-6576447/episodes/downsizing-evangelicalism-with-michelle-van-loon-ep-55 Duration seconds: 3605 ## Resource What if the shrinking of evangelicalism isn’t a crisis to be feared but an opportunity to rediscover something truer, leaner, and more like Jesus? In this episode, I sit down with author Michelle Van Loon to talk about what’s being lost, what’s worth keeping, and why smaller might actually be better for the future of faith. Grab a glass, pull up a chair, and join us as we explore how downsizing could make room for growth that actually matters. Click here to watch it on video. ----------------- Join the online community and get access to exclusive content and experiences: https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/patron-sign-ups Trying to make sense of faith? There's something better waiting for you. Download my free Deconstruction Field Guide. It's a ten-page resource to help you navigate what's next so you don't have to do it alone.   https://www.jeremyjernigan.com/opt-in   Links: Michelle's book Downsizing Michelle's website:  michellevanloon.com   Michelle's Substack:  substack.com/@michellevanloon ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/cabernet-and-pray-6576447/episodes/downsizing-evangelicalism-with-michelle-van-loon-ep-55/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/cabernet-and-pray-6576447/downsizing-evangelicalism-with-michelle-van-loon-ep-55.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.