# They Can't Kill Us if Our Art Survives - with Wednesdae, @queer.art_therapist

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Podcast: [But For Real](https://stenobird.com/podcast/but-for-real-7020454)
Published: 2026-05-27T09:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://but-for-real.captivate.fm/episode/45
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## Resource

In this episode of But For Real, we delve into the transformative realm of expressive arts therapy with our distinguished guest, Wednesdae Reim Ifrach. Their expertise lies at the confluence of queer embodiment, complex trauma, and creative healing, offering a profound perspective on how art can serve as a conduit for emotional expression and personal growth. We explore the misconception that art therapy is merely "arts and crafts for sad people," illuminating its true potential to facilitate deep, somatic healing beyond verbal communication. The conversation traverses the intersections of identity, creativity, and resistance, emphasizing the vital role of authenticity in both personal and professional spheres. Join us as we unpack these intricate themes, and discover how embracing one's multifaceted identity can foster resilience and empowerment in the face of societal challenges. Takeaways: This episode explores the intersection of expressive arts therapy, trauma, and queer identity, highlighting their profound connections. We discuss how art therapy transcends mere creative expression, serving as a legitimate therapeutic modality for adults. The conversation emphasizes the importance of authenticity and personal expression in combating systemic oppression and fostering resilience. Listeners are encouraged to pursue their own creative endeavors as acts of resistance against societal norms and expectations. Wednesday's experiences illustrate the transformative power of art in healing trauma and affirming one's identity in a complex world. The episode concludes with a call to action for increased accessibility and understanding of mental health resources and creative therapies. LINKS + Referenced in the Episode: Wednesdae's website Follow Wednesdae @queer.art_therapist…

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