# Security, Sustainability & the Physics of Social Order

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Podcast: [Business & Society](https://stenobird.com/podcast/business-society-7144475)
Published: 2025-12-09T19:31:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.creativeprocess.info/business-society/ed-saltzberg
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“I grew up in a pretty unstable time in the 1960s, in the United States. Right now, what's going on in the world is probably even more threatening because of whatever the normal stuff that happens in politics, you've got climate change kind of riding over the top of that. Young people, especially, I think, are very anxious about what the future looks like.” Today on Business and Society, Bruce Piasecki and I are joined by Ed Saltzberg , Executive Director of the Security and Sustainability Forum , an organization he founded in 2009 to bring global experts together for free, accessible conversations on climate, energy, and community resilience. SSF has now produced more than 400 webinars used by educators, professionals, and students worldwide to stay informed on the evolving challenges shaping our environmental and social future. Ed’s work extends far beyond SSF. Through his Substack, The Stability Brief , and his collaborations with Native American tribes on long-term energy and resilience planning, he weaves together science, civic responsibility, and lived experience. His perspective is grounded in a lifetime of public service—and even a formative 1966 road trip that shaped how he sees a changing planet. Today, we’ll explore what he’s learned, what concerns him, and what practical steps communities can take to build a more stable, sustainable future. Episode Website Season 3 of Bu siness & Society focuses on CEOs, Sustainability & Environmental Solutions Business & Society is a limited series co-hosted by Bruce Piasecki .

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