# Say Easy, Do Hard - Performance Through People - Greg Hoffman - BSW #459

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Published: 2026-08-05T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

This week, we air our thirteenth pre-recorded segment called "Say Easy, Do Hard". Inspired by my co-host, Jason Albuquerque, we discuss "Performance Through People". Greg Hoffman joined us a few weeks back to discuss his new book. This week, we dig into his five disciplines of Performance Through People and do the hard part. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/bsw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/bsw-459

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