# How to Use AI as a Co-Thinker, Not a Competitor Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/business-roundtable-6744681/how-to-use-ai-as-a-co-thinker-not-a-competitor Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/business-roundtable-6744681/how-to-use-ai-as-a-co-thinker-not-a-competitor.md Podcast: [Business Roundtable](https://stenobird.com/podcast/business-roundtable-6744681) Published: 2025-11-25T16:00:07+00:00 Episode link: https://www.spreaker.com/episode/how-to-use-ai-as-a-co-thinker-not-a-competitor--67768599 Audio file: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/67768599/brp_20250911_philip_topham.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/business-roundtable-6744681/episodes/how-to-use-ai-as-a-co-thinker-not-a-competitor Duration seconds: 1942 ## Resource What does it mean to co-think with AI instead of fearing it? In this episode of the Business Roundtable Podcast, host David W. Carr speaks with Philip Topham, Board and Executive AI Advisor, founder of CRAFT Thinking, and co-founder of SavionAI. Philip has published more than 130 essays on AI, is completing a new book on CRAFT Thinking, and helps boards and CEOs turn AI disruption into clarity, foresight, and measurable results. David and Philip explore how small-to-mid-sized professional service firms, executives, and boards can move beyond fear and begin leveraging AI as a tool for leadership, decision-making, and growth. Philip explains how AI is best understood as a “co-thinker”—augmenting human creativity rather than replacing it—and how intentional adoption and governance are key to success. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why AI should be seen as a co-thinker to enhance human creativity How small businesses can integrate AI affordably without massive budgets The importance of governance and intentionality when adopting AI Why company culture determines how AI should be applied How AI can reduce drudgery and free leaders to focus on relationships and growth If you’re a business owner, consultant, or executive wrestling with what AI means for your future, this conversation will help you embrace AI as a leadership advantage rather than a threat. Connect with Philip Topham: Website: http://www.philiptopham.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philiptopham Substack: https://savionai.substack.com Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/business-roundtable--6049255/support . Connect with Steward Your Business: Book a Leadership Clarity Call: https://calendar.stewardyourbusiness.com/cc Call: +1 909.404.9865 Website: https://stewardyourbu… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/business-roundtable-6744681/episodes/how-to-use-ai-as-a-co-thinker-not-a-competitor/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/business-roundtable-6744681/how-to-use-ai-as-a-co-thinker-not-a-competitor.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.