# The Hard Thing About Hard Things by Ben Horowitz | with guest Dr. Minshad Ali Ansari

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Podcast: [Business Book Club](https://stenobird.com/podcast/business-book-club-7646926)
Published: 2026-03-09T06:02:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sam-brown-572215181/
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## Resource

With over a million copies sold, Ben Horowitz’s The Hard Thing About Hard Things is considered the definitive manual for startup founders facing impossible decisions. It is the raw, unfiltered story of how to run a company when absolutely nothing is going according to plan. Joining me today is Dr. Minshad , CEO and founder of Bionema Group, a UK-based ag-tech company working on biological solutions to replace toxic chemical pesticides. Coming from an academic background, Dr. Minshad bootstrapped his company from scratch and faced over 50 VC rejections before finding his footing. Today, we discuss why there is no playbook for the truly hard things in business, the critical differences between a "Peacetime CEO" and a "Wartime CEO," and why you must hire for exceptional strength rather than a lack of weakness. Key Takeaways & Timestamps 00:00 – Introducing The Hard Thing About Hard Things and Ben Horowitz's journey from near-bankruptcy to a $1.6 billion exit. 02:57 – No Playbook for Hard Things: Why the most difficult skill in business is managing your own psychology, and how Dr. Minshad persisted through 50+ investor rejections. 06:47 – Be the Wartime CEO: The difference between leading in a booming market (Peacetime) versus fighting for your company's survival (Wartime). 08:08 – The Academic to Entrepreneur Pipeline: Why deep-tech investors are looking for a specific co-founder dynamic: one deeply technical academic paired with a commercial business mind. 13:28 – Hire for Strength, Not Lack of Weaknesses: Why settling for a "safe" hire is a disaster, and why a spectacular candidate is worth 10x more than a solid one. 16:48 – The "No Money" Excuse: Dr. Minshad's hard truth for founders: If you don't have the money to hire the right people, you don't have a business.…

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