# High Output Management by Andy Grove | with guest Tom Hunt

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Podcast: [Business Book Club](https://stenobird.com/podcast/business-book-club-7646926)
Published: 2026-03-23T06:02:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sam-brown-572215181/
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## Resource

If you look at the bookshelves of the world's most successful CEOs, you will almost always find a copy of High Output Management by Andy Grove. Grove was the CEO of Intel. He treated management as an engineering problem, focusing entirely on leverage and maximizing production. But how do you apply theories from the 1980s to a fully remote business today? To help me explore that, I am joined by Tom Hunt. Tom is the founder of Fame, a B2B podcast agency he bootstrapped with zero funding to $4.5 million in annual recurring revenue. To achieve that growth, Tom had to stop being a marketer and start being a manager. In this episode, we break down exactly how he used Grove's framework to do it. We cover why your output is actually your team's output, why meetings are highly effective tools, and the art of true delegation. Key Takeaways & Timestamps 00:00 - Introducing High Output Management and how it shaped modern business. 02:03 - The Manager's Output: Your output is strictly the total output of everyone you manage, not your individual contributor work. 05:54 - High Leverage P&L: Powerful, high-level overview to properly guide your team's focus. 06:56 - Meetings are the Work: Meetings are not interruptions to your day but rather the exact places where management happens. 07:56 - The 7 Types of Communication 10:40 - The Remote Meeting Cadence: A strict and predictable schedule of check-ins keeps a distributed team perfectly aligned. 18:20 - Task Relevant Maturity (TRM): Adjust your management style from highly structured to completely hands-off based entirely on an employee's maturity in a specific task. 23:24 - The Written Agenda Rule: Requiring a written agenda before any ad hoc meeting will eliminate those time-wasting, unstructured calls. 25:51 - Ban Private DMs…

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