# Trump’s Kennedy Center Fight Is Barreling Toward a Constitutional Showdown (w/ Nathaniel Zelinsky)

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Podcast: [Bulwark Takes](https://stenobird.com/podcast/bulwark-takes-7201724)
Published: 2026-09-19T01:30:00+00:00
Episode link: https://audioboom.com/posts/8954529
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## Resource

Bill Kristol talks with Nathaniel Zelinsky, the lead counsel challenging Trump’s efforts at the Kennedy Center, about the president’s demolition threats, the judge putting new limits on what the administration can do, and what happens if Trump simply refuses to obey a court order. Zelinsky explains why this fight over one building could become a much bigger test of the rule of law.

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