# From Drama to Empowerment – Building Zion One Role at a Time

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Podcast: [Building Zion Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/building-zion-podcast-7629313)
Published: 2026-09-18T18:55:27+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode we explore Stephen Karpman’s Drama Triangle (Victim, Hero/Rescuer, Villain) and its powerful counterpart, the Empowerment Triangle (Creator, Coach, Challenger). Drawing from personal notes and real-life patterns, we look at how these roles show up in everyday relationships, conflict, and even our spiritual communities. We use the analogy of a play: most stories begin with the main character stuck in the Drama Triangle, but the best ones—the ones that actually transform us—are the ones where the main character wakes up, steps out of the old script, and moves into empowerment. The conversation ties directly into Zion: what it looks like to build a people of pure heart and real agency by noticing the roles we play and choosing differently. To schedule an Emotional Release Process with me, click on the link: https://calendly.com/smashly85/emotional-release-process

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