# "Privacy Is NOT a Right" – But It Is Your Best Defense | Molyneux & Hillebrand

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Podcast: [BTC Sessions](https://stenobird.com/podcast/btc-sessions-354141)
Published: 2026-05-19T11:03:00+00:00
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## Resource

Mentor Sessions Ep. 070: Why “Nothing to Hide” Is the Most Dangerous Lie Ever Sold, Why Privacy Is NOT a Right But Your Only Real Defense, and How Tech Can Crush Free-Range Serfdom | Molyneux & Hillebrand Privacy is a consequence of property rights — and the government is racing to destroy both. Stefan Molyneux and Max Hillebrand join BTC Sessions for a rare, unfiltered debate on why surrendering your financial data to CBDCs is the endgame of totalitarian control, and how Bitcoin privacy tools like Coinjoin and zero-knowledge proofs are the last line of defense. You'll learn why the 'nothing to hide' argument is one of the most dangerous lies ever sold to the public, how social credit scores are already being constructed through blockchain surveillance, and why Max Hillebrand's work on Wasabi Wallet — funded entirely by a 0.3% fee — paid 40 engineers without a single government grant. You'll also see Stefan and Max debate intellectual property from first principles, explore whether privacy is an outcome or a prerequisite of a free society, and understand why the OODA loop from military strategy explains exactly why financial privacy keeps you safe. ⏱️ Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro 1:02 - Introducing Stefan Molyneux and Max Hillebrand 1:42 - Online Age Verification and Privacy Trade-Offs 2:14 - Dangers of the Nothing-to-Hide Argument 4:59 - Child Protection Versus State Surveillance 7:12 - When Privacy Violations Are Morally Justified 9:00 - Max Hillebrand Defines Privacy 10:03 - Privacy as a Property Right 11:10 - Free Market Age Verification Solutions 12:44 - Zero-Knowledge Proofs for Private Age Checks 13:42 - Social Credit Scores and Reputation Attacks 17:30 - Anonymity as Defense Against Reputation Harm 18:39 - Ostracism Versus State Enforcement 21:35 - AI Removing…

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