# The Future of AM Radio with Matt Caine & Rob Brown

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Podcast: [Broadcast Dialogue - The Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/broadcast-dialogue-the-podcast-220006)
Published: 2026-07-31T19:30:00+00:00
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## Resource

Third generation broadcaster Matt Caine is among the independent radio group owners grappling with where the industry is headed. Caine is the president of Whiteoaks Communications , which recently moved two of the company's heritage AM stations to HD Radio to expand the reach of another heritage AM - CKTB St. Catharines - one of four stations it acquired in the Bell Media divestiture. Caine and longtime Pattison Media broadcast engineer Rob Brown join Broadcast Dialogue - The Podcast to talk about the realities of the AM band - both from a technical standpoint and the challenges of trying to meet listeners where they're at digitally. Among other things, we talk about the under-utilization of HD Radio in Canada, the lack of a digital transition plan for the industry, and we ask how much blame for the current state of the radio business is rooted in a lack of vision? See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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