# Trump 2.0 Revealed: How Donald Trump Changed His Strategy | Jonathan Swan

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Podcast: [Brian Kilmeade Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/brian-kilmeade-show-745158)
Published: 2026-09-16T19:05:00+00:00
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## Resource

New York Times reporter and author Jonathan Swan joins Brian Kilmeade to discuss his bestseller 'Regime Change: Inside the Imperial Presidency of Donald Trump.' Swan details how Trump's second term operates completely differently from his first, the dynamics inside his inner circle, cabinet clashes like Scott Bessent vs. Elon Musk, and how the administration approaches foreign policy and the upcoming midterms. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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