# Bret Baier: “We’ve Been in Darker Places Before” | The Case for America

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Podcast: [Brian Kilmeade Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/brian-kilmeade-show-745158)
Published: 2026-05-09T04:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

As America approaches its 250th anniversary, Special Report host Bret Baier joins Brian Kilmeade to discuss his new book "The Case for America." From the brutal rivalry of Adams and Jefferson to the resilience of Condoleezza Rice in the Jim Crow South, Bret explains why our history of partisanship isn't new—and why our nation is still worth fighting for. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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