# Foreign Lobbyists Have Built a Legal System to Bypass the First Amendment

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Podcast: [Brave The New World](https://stenobird.com/podcast/brave-the-new-world-7682826)
Published: 2026-05-05T14:55:38+00:00
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## Resource

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has flown to Jerusalem multiple times to sign Florida laws on foreign soil. He's not the only one. Thirty-eight US states have adopted the IHRA framework — a definition of antisemitism whose own author, Kenneth Stern, has been telling Congress for years is being weaponized to silence political speech about a foreign government. This episode walks through what's actually been built. The state laws. The federal Title VI enforcement wave. The lobbying network — Joseph Sabag, Eugene Kontorovich, Richard Goldberg, the Brandeis Center, the Combat Antisemitism Movement, ALEC. The federal court rulings calling it viewpoint discrimination and a smokescreen for ideologically-motivated assault. The Americans already hurt — Mahmoud Khalil, who missed the birth of his first child during 104 days in a Louisiana detention facility for activities the State Department's own memo described as "otherwise lawful." Harvard, hit with a $2.2 billion funding freeze before a federal judge struck it down. Then the foreign comparison. The United Kingdom: thirty arrests per day for online speech. Germany: five years in prison proposed for a phrase. France: criminal prosecutions for calling consumer boycotts. The destination is named, and the only thing standing between the apparatus already built here and the cases unfolding there is the First Amendment — which the architects know they cannot beat in a fair fight. If free speech falls, no other right is safe. This is a documentation of what has been built, who built it, who it serves, and what it has already cost. CHAPTERS: 00:00 — DeSantis in Jerusalem 05:00 — What Free Speech Actually Is 14:00 — The IHRA Tool 22:00 — Florida Step by Step 33:00 — Who Built It 46:00 — Are These Laws Doing Damage? 51:00 — Where This L…

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