# AN ARTIFICIAL HISTORY OF NATURAL INTELLIGENCE: Time travelling the mind. Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/brainland-6744859/an-artificial-history-of-natural-intelligence-time-travelling-the-mind Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/brainland-6744859/an-artificial-history-of-natural-intelligence-time-travelling-the-mind.md Podcast: [BRAINLAND](https://stenobird.com/podcast/brainland-6744859) Published: 2026-01-17T12:19:12+00:00 Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/brainland/episodes/an-artificial-history-of-natural-intelligence-time-travellin Audio file: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/6452b6516dd22500113dc7ca/e/696938074a98b04d3d812feb/media.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/brainland-6744859/episodes/an-artificial-history-of-natural-intelligence-time-travelling-the-mind Duration seconds: 2933 ## Resource In this episode David Bates discusses his recent book An Artificial History of Natural Intelligence: Thinking with machines from Decartes to the digital age', a masterly survey of the history of intelligence and its aids. The book is the summation of 20 years of scholarship, a kind of time travel of the mind, and the range of topics we cherry-pick include the influence of automata on Descartes's thinking and pocket watches on Kant's, Spinoza's 'bloodworms', Peirce's hypothesis as 'emergency thought', Hughling Jackson on the brain as a continuously evolving organ, the origin of the notion of brain plasticity, Wolfgang' Köher's chimps and Alan Turing's 'spiritual machines'. Lyotard wrote that 'technology wasn't invented by us. Rather the other way round'. Discuss....or just have a listen. Participants: David W. Bates, Professor, Department of Rhetoric, University of California, Berkeley https://vcresearch.berkeley.edu/faculty/david-bates Ken Barrett, visual artist, writer and retired neuropsychiatrist: http://www.kenbarrettstudio.co.uk David's book: An Artificial History of Natural Intelligence: https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/A/bo212878817.html Opening music: Prelude to the opera Brainland , composed by Stephen Brown.  Brainland the opera website: www.brainlandtheopera.co.uk Portrait sketch by KB Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/brainland-6744859/episodes/an-artificial-history-of-natural-intelligence-time-travelling-the-mind/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/brainland-6744859/an-artificial-history-of-natural-intelligence-time-travelling-the-mind.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.