# Ep. 39 | Dismantling Restraint and Seclusion: A Conversation with Guy Stephens (Pt. 2) Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/brain-first-parenting-with-eileen-devine-7069827/ep-39-dismantling-restraint-and-seclusion-a-conversation-with-guy-stephens-pt-2 Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/brain-first-parenting-with-eileen-devine-7069827/ep-39-dismantling-restraint-and-seclusion-a-conversation-with-guy-stephens-pt-2.md Podcast: [Brain First Parenting with Eileen Devine](https://stenobird.com/podcast/brain-first-parenting-with-eileen-devine-7069827) Published: 2026-04-06T09:00:32+00:00 Episode link: https://podcasts.helloaudio.fm/download/ZzWs5wxw7J/db74a9ff-b2aa-4e39-8826-bb81850e44aa.mp3 Audio file: https://podcasts.helloaudio.fm/download/ZzWs5wxw7J/db74a9ff-b2aa-4e39-8826-bb81850e44aa.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/brain-first-parenting-with-eileen-devine-7069827/episodes/ep-39-dismantling-restraint-and-seclusion-a-conversation-with-guy-stephens-pt-2 Duration seconds: 1966 ## Resource SUMMARY - Today's episode is Part 2 of a 2-part conversation with Guy Stephens, founder and executive director of the Alliance Against Seclusion and Restraint (AASR), a national nonprofit dedicated to ending the use of punitive, exclusionary, and dangerous discipline in schools. Takeaways: AASR's work is guided by 5 principles: trauma-informed, neuroscience-aligned, neurodiversity-affirming, collaborative, and relationship-driven Implementing these principles into the culture of an organization and the work of the individual professional is not a "one-and-done" event. It requires on-going commitment and work. When behavior is assessed using these five principles, it is then possible to see beyond the surface behavior, through a brain and nervous system informed lens. When the root cause of behavior is accurately identified, there are other, more compassionate and effective approaches that emerge in how to support the individual who is struggling behaviorally. RESOURCES: Alliance Against Seclusion and Restraint (AASR) YouTube: Alliance Against Seclusion and Restraint ======================= If you appreciated this episode, and would like to receive a weekly note from Eileen about the Brain First Parenting journey every Monday, you can subscribe to her free newsletter HERE ! You can also check out all the FREE resources Eileen offers for parents, and learn more about all things Brain First at her website: eileendevine.com And of course, find and follow Eileen on social media: Facebook Instagram YouTube Pinterest ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/brain-first-parenting-with-eileen-devine-7069827/episodes/ep-39-dismantling-restraint-and-seclusion-a-conversation-with-guy-stephens-pt-2/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/brain-first-parenting-with-eileen-devine-7069827/ep-39-dismantling-restraint-and-seclusion-a-conversation-with-guy-stephens-pt-2.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.