# Breaking Down the BUSINESS of LAW | Bourbon of Proof vs. Mary Ellen Murrah

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Podcast: [Bourbon of Proof](https://stenobird.com/podcast/bourbon-of-proof-6403928)
Published: 2026-02-11T14:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

On another Bourbon of Proof episode live from NYC, the guys welcome Vista Consulting boss/law firm growth guru Mary Ellen Murrah & trial lawyer/real-life Vista client Michael Rose! Bob, Mauro, Mary Ellen and Michael talk about scaling firms without blowing up culture and debate whether reading your own mail on airplanes is a sign of leadership... or just a cry for help. Cheers to leveling up, BOP style! If you'd like to reach out or submit a case for free review by Bob and Mauro or you're interested in partnering with the show, call 1-844-THE-TEAM And search the App Store for the JUSTICE TEAM App by The Simon Law Group!! thesimonlawgroup.com vistact.com

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