# Dynorphins, Heat Shock Proteins & The Healthiest, Hottest Sauna On The Planet, with Luke Chapman & Owen Buchanan

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Published: 2026-07-23T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Full show notes: https://bengreenfieldlife.com/saunapodcast In this episode with Luke Chapman and Owen Buchanan , founders of Western Sol , you'll hear the story behind the custom sauna I recently had built in my backyard in Idaho, and the story behind the company itself, which started when a mold exposure in Hawaii sent Luke into daily sauna use. You'll gain insights into the actual science of heat shock proteins and dynorphins (the opioid peptides your body releases under heat stress), why most sauna wood is loaded with VOCs, and how thermally pressed aspen and spruce sourced from Estonia solves that problem entirely. We'll also touch on how Western Sol engineers oxygen-rich air recirculation, Himalayan salt therapy, and even full electrical grounding directly into the sauna floor, and you'll get a full walkthrough of what it costs to get a custom or prefabricated sauna built. Luke Chapman and Owen Buchanan are the founders of Western Sol, a custom and prefabricated sauna company based in Idaho. Both grew up around custom home construction in their family businesses before turning their focus toward building non-toxic, low-VOC saunas designed to support healing of the mind, body, and soul. They travel throughout Europe to source materials and study traditional sauna culture at its origin. You can find out more about Western Sol and schedule a free consultation here .  Episode Sponsors: Dr. Murray Natural Products ThymoQuin : A clinically researched black seed oil formulated to support healthy cortisol levels and resilience to everyday stress. Visit doctormurray.com/ben and use code BEN25 for 25% off. Manukora : Honey with superpowers. Head to manukora.com/ben or use code BEN to get $25 off your Starter Kit. Just Thrive : The Gut Essentials Bundle pairs a probiot…

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