# Startled, Trapped, & Shamed: How to Stop Accidentally Dysregulating Autistic Kids Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/born-to-be-free-supporting-neurodivergent-clients-to-learn-play-thrive-734792/startled-trapped-shamed-how-to-stop-accidentally-dysregulating-autistic-kids Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/born-to-be-free-supporting-neurodivergent-clients-to-learn-play-thrive-734792/startled-trapped-shamed-how-to-stop-accidentally-dysregulating-autistic-kids.md Podcast: [Born to Be Free: Supporting Neurodivergent Clients to Learn, Play, & Thrive](https://stenobird.com/podcast/born-to-be-free-supporting-neurodivergent-clients-to-learn-play-thrive-734792) Published: 2025-10-15T10:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://two-sides-of-the-spectrum.simplecast.com/episodes/startled-trapped-shamed-how-to-stop-accidentally-dysregulating-autistic-kids-KrpaleAE Audio file: https://cdn.simplecast.com/audio/b81a4df9-d5e1-4a0d-a9fb-65a02f9e4a87/episodes/21c306f9-f0f8-4dc0-ba59-9202ebaf0960/audio/a63ce76a-bf86-42b3-9f16-980806bb4875/default_tc.mp3?aid=rss_feed&feed=95l3t3IC Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/born-to-be-free-supporting-neurodivergent-clients-to-learn-play-thrive-734792/episodes/startled-trapped-shamed-how-to-stop-accidentally-dysregulating-autistic-kids Duration seconds: 3612 ## Resource All behavior makes sense, we just have to make sense of it. In this conversation, psychologist Dr. Gillian Boudreau helps us see that underlying nearly any behavior is fear. And so often, the fear is related to a child being startled, feeling trapped, or being shamed. But if you aren’t looking for it, it’s easy to miss. In this conversation we explore the nuance of each of these - especially for PDAers - and Gillian's exact roadmap for concrete ways to avoid them (complete with clever acronyms for each). This is a must-listen episode to help you understand your clients' experience in their lives and during your sessions. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/born-to-be-free-supporting-neurodivergent-clients-to-learn-play-thrive-734792/episodes/startled-trapped-shamed-how-to-stop-accidentally-dysregulating-autistic-kids/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/born-to-be-free-supporting-neurodivergent-clients-to-learn-play-thrive-734792/startled-trapped-shamed-how-to-stop-accidentally-dysregulating-autistic-kids.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.