# Safety As The Foundation of Everything with Dr. Gillian Boudreau

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Podcast: [Born to Be Free: Supporting Neurodivergent Clients to Learn, Play, & Thrive](https://stenobird.com/podcast/born-to-be-free-supporting-neurodivergent-clients-to-learn-play-thrive-734792)
Published: 2025-10-01T10:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Episode 67 was one of our most impactful episodes ever, and today we invite you to re-listen. Often as OTs and SLPs we skip right to teaching our Autistic clients new skills. But what about their feelings of felt safety while they are with us? What work do we need to do so that we can show up calm and connected and ready to support our Autistic kids to feel truly safe before they are ready to learn? Psychologist and school psychologist Dr. Gillian Boudreau talks us through this essential and often overlooked first step to supporting our Autistic clients. This is a re-airing of episode 67 in preparation for our next episode, which will be a new conversation with Dr. Gillian Boudreau that builds on this incredibly impactful episode.

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