# BONUS: Venezuela in the Wake of Maduro's Capture (with Ioan Grillo)

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Podcast: [Borderland: Dispatches with Katarina Szulc](https://stenobird.com/podcast/borderland-dispatches-with-katarina-szulc-7338689)
Published: 2026-01-05T21:02:00+00:00
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## Resource

This weekend, Borderland: Dispatches host Katarina Szulc was able to connect with acclaimed cartel investigative reporter Ioan Grillo, from the border of Columbia and Venezuela, who gave an inside look at the capture of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro. In this special episode of Borderland: Dispatches, Ioan Grillo and Katarina talk about what the situation is like on the ground, what comes next, and what the implications are for cartels, organized crime, and the drug war. Borderland: Dispatches is an IRONCLAD Original. More from IRONCLAD: IG: https://www.instagram.com/thisisironclad/ YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@thisisironclad Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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