# BSG #113: Between Hard & Soft / Immaculate Conception by Ling Ling Huang

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Podcast: [Book Squad Goals](https://stenobird.com/podcast/book-squad-goals-7882)
Published: 2025-11-27T23:27:44+00:00
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It's time for the squad to meld minds with Seattle Book Club's Sam Clark to discuss Immaculate Conception, Ling Ling Huang's sophomore novel. Is this a sci-fi novel? Is it literary fiction? Is this queer? Does the art described in this book sound legit? Well, yes to all of that... but it's complicated. Tune in to find out more. And don't forget to come back next time for our discussion of Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein with friend/husband of the pod, Todd! And if you're already ready to prepare for our next bookpisode, we'll be discussing Crafting for Sinners by Jenny Kiefer on 12/23! If you listen, don't forget to rate and review (and we will love you forever. And take a peek at our Patreon, https://www.patreon.com/booksquadgoals . It's only $3 a month to join! TOC 0:00:30 Welcome Sam from Seattle Book Club! 0:13:19 Immaculate Conception Synopsis from Fable 0:16:10 Kelly's Art Critique 0:27:43 The Setting of the Book 0:36:15 AI in the novel 0:39:10 Art & Technology & Parenthood 0:48:25 Enka & Mathilde's relationship 0:53:14 Empathy and SCAFFOLD 0:59:29 The Mother-in-Law 1:03:40 Enka’s husband! 1:14:02 Immaculate Conception 1:18:30 Gay? And Final Thoughts 1:20:35 Rating 1:28:20 Interview with Sam 1:43:30 What's on the Blog?/Be Afraid, Todd! (He is Afraid)

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