# Bonus Smiles S1E10: Steven Garrett

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Podcast: [Bonus Smiles (Hosted by Public Radio Runner)](https://stenobird.com/podcast/bonus-smiles-hosted-by-public-radio-runner-7696040)
Published: 2026-03-16T05:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/publicradiorunner/episodes/Bonus-Smiles-S1E10-Steven-Garrett-e3gil5g
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Duration seconds: 766

## Resource

Welcome to Bonus Smiles! A music and interview show that’s fueled by runners and their playlists! I’m Public Radio Runner. In this episode Steven Garrett takes us on a tour of his pain cave. In this land, his philosophy is simple: “pain is temporary, but finishing first is permanent.” But as Steven found out, sometimes when you push hard, the next destination after the podium is the ER. Steven explores the necessity of returning to a foundational love for the sport that humbles and teaches. He discusses how he reconnects and returns to running reinvigorated. His pain cave is more than a one dimensional place of suffering. Steven’s journeys into the pain cave have taught him how to understand mind over matter, what it means, and what he’s made of–most importantly, it’s been a place of love. He shares how his relationship with pain has evolved, and how a specific blend of the Red Hot Chili Peppers and "Eye of the Tiger" helps him finish strong.

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