# Inside Out, Outside In, and What It Means for Buildin' Bonsai w/ Eric Schrader and Jonas Dupuich - Ep 47 Part 1

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Podcast: [Bonsai Builders Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/bonsai-builders-podcast-7450806)
Published: 2026-07-15T13:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bonsaibuilders/episodes/Inside-Out--Outside-In--and-What-It-Means-for-Buildin-Bonsai-w-Eric-Schrader-and-Jonas-Dupuich---Ep-47-Part-1-e3m0ct0
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## Resource

In this episode, Addison, Eric Schrader, and Jonas Dupuich team up to discuss the recent Black Pondo episode that covered two new terms, "inside out" and "outside in" in the context of bonsai development approaches. What do these terms mean and are they useful for explaining how to make bonsai? We also take it a step further and investigate the origins of these practices in Japan.

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