# Erik Lie: Catching Cheats, Fraud Detection, and the Board’s Evolving Role

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Podcast: [Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein](https://stenobird.com/podcast/boardroom-governance-with-evan-epstein-369130)
Published: 2025-11-24T10:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Erik Lie is the Amelia Tippie Chair in Finance and Professor at the Tippie College of Business at the University of Iowa. His new book, Catching Cheats: Everyday Forensics to Unmask Business Fraud, offers a compelling look at how forensic economics and data-driven analysis can help identify wrongdoing that remains hidden in plain sight. We talk about a broad range of governance and fraud-related issues, beginning with the challenges of private-market data, the evolving responsibilities of directors in fraud detection, and real-world lessons from the Bernie Madoff case and other historic white-collar scandals.

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