# Dark Patterns, Bright Ideas: Why Deceptive Design Belongs in Accessibility

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Podcast: [Boagworld: UX, Design Leadership, Marketing & Conversion Optimization](https://stenobird.com/podcast/boagworld-ux-design-leadership-marketing-conversion-optimization-1074603)
Published: 2025-09-23T11:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://boagworld.com/season/rebooted/episode/26/
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## Resource

This month we dragged in our old friend and accessibility guru, Todd Libby, to help us unravel the thorny subject of deceptive design.

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