# 072 | Welcoming the Magic: Building a Connected Math Journey with Ann Elise Record | May 20, 2026

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Podcast: [Blue Glasses Math](https://stenobird.com/podcast/blue-glasses-math-6801549)
Published: 2026-05-21T01:28:34+00:00
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What does it really mean to build a connected math journey — for students and for teachers? In this episode, Pam sits down with Ann Elise Record, elementary math consultant, coach, and co-author of Math Running Records, for a conversation that is equal parts inspiring, honest, and deeply practical. Ann Elise shares her own math story: from being a memorization champion who "thought she had the math brain," to a fifth-grade teacher who unknowingly kept her students stuck in counting — and the pivotal moments that cracked open her understanding of what math teaching could truly be. From a week-long intensive with Dr. Mahesh Sharma that took her from multiplication facts to polynomial division using the same area model, to discovering flexible, relational strategies through Dr. Nicki Newton, Ann Elise's journey is a testament to what happens when educators put themselves in the room and stay curious. Together, Pam and Ann Elise explore: Why fluency isn't about speed — it's about flexibility, efficiency, and accuracy The power of Cuisenaire rods and manipulatives at every grade level What Math Running Records reveal about student reasoning (and how to use that data well) How to navigate teacher resistance — and why experience, not information, changes beliefs The critical difference between counting, additive, multiplicative, and proportional reasoning Why intervention must be coherent with Tier 1 instruction (and what gets in the way) The role of belonging, consistency, and coherence in accelerating student growth How family math nights can turn frustrated parents into powerful allies Rules that expire — and why what we say in first grade matters in fifth grade and beyond This is a conversation about the magic and the messiness of math education — and why both a…

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