# THE PHOENICIAN SCHEME

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Podcast: [Blood and Black Rum Podcast - A Cult Film / Horror Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/blood-and-black-rum-podcast-a-cult-film-horror-podcast-3237)
Published: 2025-11-14T13:47:28+00:00
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## Resource

We've covered most of Wes Anderson's recent output, but we missed The Phoenician Scheme when it released in theaters. So we wanted to rectify that in between our holiday coverage, and give this espionage/business caper its proper due. Here we talk about the overly complicated scheme, Benicio del Toro as frontman, the phoenix rising of Michael Cera, and a whole lot more as we try to parse the symmetrical orientation of Anderson's film. We're also drinking Ommegang's Ommegeddon, a Brett Saison Ale! Approximate timeline 0:00-12:00 Intro 12:00-20:00 Beer talk 20:00-end The Phoenician Scheme Next up: we head into Thanksgiving with a look at 2021's Black Friday !

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