# Ish from the JBP| "WORDS MEAN THINGS" (ARCHIVE) (Ep. 334)

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Published: 2025-12-23T04:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://needtoknowpod.libsyn.com/episode-334
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Duration seconds: 7098

## Resource

Originally released: October 13, 2025 This is the closing chapter of The Need to Know Podcast . Everything below this is the NTK archive — a curated back catalogue from that era. A wide-ranging conversation with Ish and Yassy on relationships, media narratives, and the realities behind public perception. From transactional culture to industry power dynamics, the discussion also touches on business, recovery, and navigating life both on and off the mic.

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