# S17 E8: Riccardo Spagni on Bitcoin, Monero & Privacy

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Published: 2026-02-16T22:04:00+00:00
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Between 2014 and 2019, Riccardo Spagni (aka Fluffy Pony) led the development and engineering efforts of the Monero privacy. But he's also been a prominent bitcoiner since 2011, who did mining and supported e-commerce. He built a solid reputation on the Bitcoin OTC trading platform, created the PayBee and Globee payment processors, and even invented OpenAlias in order to simplify the now-standardized address format. In this episode, we talk about his contributions and what he's currently up to. Time stamps: 00:01:32 – Introduction & Magical Crypto Friends Era 00:02:57 – Challenges of Producing Magical Crypto Friends 00:04:26 – Craig Wright Satire & Community Targets 00:07:59 – Early Bitcoin Community & 2011 Generation 00:08:53 – Satoshi’s Intentions & Early Bitcoin Culture 00:13:00 – Technical Openness & Developer Culture 00:16:34 – Toxicity, Bag Bias, and Gloria Zhao Incident 00:22:27 – Ordinals, Spam, and Censorship Debates 00:29:24 – Privacy, Permissionlessness, and Miner Censorship 00:31:53 – Technical Flaws of Filtering & Forking Lessons 00:41:04 – Bitcoin Cash, Forks, and Movement Unity 00:45:57 – Economic Dogma vs. Technical Reality 00:47:40 – Layer 2, Lightning, and Privacy Limitations 00:49:38 – Magic Wand: Ideal Bitcoin Privacy Upgrades 00:52:31 – ETFs, Custodians, and Institutional Privacy 00:55:00 – Sponsor Plugs & Humanitarian Use Cases 01:02:36 – Samourai Wallet, Toxic Change, and Monero Swaps 01:06:39 – Privacy Coin Market Trends & Bandwagoning 01:12:13 – AI, Privacy, and Global South Crypto Use 01:18:01 – Tron, Justin Sun, and Stablecoin Adoption 01:22:33 – Bitcoin’s Changing Role: Store of Value vs. Money 01:26:15 – MoneroTopia & Legal Restrictions 01:31:50 – Early Bitcoin Support & The Most Serene Republic 01:37:25 – Philosophical Roots of Bitcoin Maxi…

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