# S17 E15: OPNET Smart Contracts on Bitcoin L1 with Danny & Chad

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Published: 2026-03-25T13:44:00+00:00
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## Resource

Chad Masterson & Charlie Plainview are the co-founders of OPNET: a protocol that brings smart contracts, DeFi & stablecoins to Bitcoin's base layer. No tokens, wrappers, or bridges are required. But how does it really work & how is it different from Omni, Counterparty, and Citrea? Time stamps: Time stamps: 00:00:36 Introducing Danny and Chad from OPNET 00:01:37 Defining OP NET and Consensus Protocols 00:03:19 Comparison to Counterparty and EVM Compatibility 00:05:39 Technical Implementation: Witness Field and Bitcoin Compliance 00:07:32 Leveraging Bitcoin’s Native Scripting 00:09:03 Problems with Meta Protocols and Off-Chain Indexers 00:12:48 Potential for DeFi and Institutional Use 00:14:07 Layer Two Limitations and Liquidity Issues 00:15:35 Scaling and High Fee Environment 00:20:52 Stablecoins and OP 20 Token Standard 00:23:18 Freedom, Use Cases, and Bitcoin’s Limitations 00:27:36 Critique of Liquid and Bridging Solutions 00:31:38 Lightning Network, Taproot Assets, and Payments Use Case 00:34:49 Bitcoin Yield, Loans, and Productive Capital 00:37:44 Criticism from Bitcoin Maximalists: Spam and Competing Tokens 00:42:06 Spam, UTXO Bloat, and Account-Based Model 00:44:51 Miner Incentives, MEV, and Transaction Ordering 00:50:04 Sponsor Plugs and Giveaway 01:04:52 OP NET's Target Audience and User Adoption 01:13:00 Bitcoin’s Role: Peer-to-Peer Cash or Financial Layer? 01:23:00 Permissionless Innovation and Resilience 01:26:39 Emergent Use Cases and Historical Parallels 01:30:16 Airdrops, Incentives, and Early User Rewards 01:32:33 Security and Comparison Between OP-20 and BRC-20 01:34:18 Live DeFi Applications and Fee Experience 01:36:53 AI Coding FUD and Development Process 01:39:51 Decentralization, Node Operation, and Team Size 01:42:26 Final Questions: Criticisms, Wal…

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